In cycling, we use the terms Clydesdale or Athena to identify riders who are a few sigmas above the mean in terms of weight. I’m surprised we don’t have these tags.

There is a tag “heavy” but many Clydesdale and Athena riders find this term (as well as the f*t word) to be pejorative.

The only problem is that the terms Clydesdale and Athena are not well known outside of those rider communities.

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    I'd never heard of athena till this question. – Criggie Dec 24 '17 at 19:44
  • I've never heard of Athena either, but I have heard Clydesdale thrown around frequently in a non-pejorative manner. Kona even used the term Clydesdale in the marketing description for their "Hoss" model of bike. – Deleted User Jan 7 '19 at 16:19

Is there any synonym that's not pejorative, but likely to be more widely understood than "clydesdale" and "athena"?

I'm happy to set up synonyms (and merge tags around), but I'd prefer to have the primary tag be something easily understood by most people, but also not be considered pejorative.

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  • Those are the terms preferred by people in the community. There’s nothing inherently pejorative about a Clydesdale - it’s an extremely sturdy well built horse. – RoboKaren Jan 3 '18 at 19:31
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    @RoboKaren My objection to "clydesdale" is that when it's on a post, it won't be clear what it means to many people. A subset of english-speaking cyclists know that term, but will somebody who isn't themselves a "clysedale" know? Or a newer cyclist? Or a cyclist without a lot of community connections? Or somebody who speaks English as a second language? "heavier-rider" is, at least, pretty clear what it means. – freiheit Jan 3 '18 at 19:39
  • That’s a good point that could be clarified in the tag description. People right now seem to be using the tag “heavy” which one can argue is just as pejorative. – RoboKaren Jan 3 '18 at 19:41
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    Side-note: my weight while cycling has been between 240lbs (108kg) and 270lbs (122kg). That exceeds the weight limits for many cycling companies. I have very rarely ever heard the term "clydesdale" and never used it. Never heard "athena" until today. – freiheit Jan 3 '18 at 19:41
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    N=1 isn’t a good counterargument. It does seem specific to certain American and British communities. – RoboKaren Jan 3 '18 at 19:42
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    Both terms are widely used on bikeforums.net, which is a very longstanding and popular online forum for cyclists—in fact, there's a board titled "Clydesdales/Athenas." I don't know if that's where they originated or if the terms are mostly local to that. – Adam Rice Aug 26 '18 at 22:02

Perhaps heavy and athena should be synonoms of clydesdale ?

Sounds like a perfect use of synonoms.

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  • I agree but I think we need someone with mod points to set up synonyms? – RoboKaren Dec 24 '17 at 19:46
  • @RoboKaren "Creating a tag synonym requires 5 score in this tag." and 2500 overall. A mod can do it at any time. I'm slightly confused if C should be a synonom for H or H should be a synonon for C. And I've not yet found a single question where Athena fits. – Criggie Dec 25 '17 at 2:16
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    Very few women admit to being Athena’s so they’re likely to not show up much. I think Clydesdale should be the main term with heavy as a synonym. – RoboKaren Dec 25 '17 at 7:18

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